Problem is, it doesn't feel like a secret level, regardless of its apparent remake status. It's short, not really that strange or different, and is probably too 'simple' to be considered any sort of worthy reward for taking the time and effort to find what's probably going to be a well-hidden secret exit. Secret maps in general should feel like a reward to the player, like they've found something cool that's worth their time (I'd say ZPack was a good example of this if it didn't sound so conceited :P ). Just being a remake, IMO, doesn't really qualify a map as this, since all you get is some cheap novelty factor that is quickly lost (i.e. Doom 2's Wolfenstein maps) or, evern worse, is never seen at all by people who've never played the game before. Hell, I have played the first few maps of Heretic 2 and I still didn't catch the reference.

It's not really fair to compare it to Doom 2's Wolf maps, either, since Doom and Wolfenstein are very different enough for it to stick out like a sore thumb to most. Silverspring Docks still looks and feels like Heretic (and, more importantly, it fits well with the rest of the HPack maps). Combine that with the fact that it works well as a first map as-is and Elven Wood does not (too large!), we wind up with a map order that is confusing and oddly-placed.

Also, aren't we forgetting that E1M1 of ZPack was a TNT Map01 remake of sorts? Silly argument, but it's true. :P

WHAT! If your talking about vestibule it is not like System Control in my opionion!
Keep in mind that Go 2 it is a remake of Entryway, Wolfeinstien is a remake of the first Wolf3d level and Grosse is a remake of the Boss match with Hans Grosse.
So Silverspring Docks should be a secret level because it is a remake of a level in a different game.

I'm with Xaser on this one. Silverspring Docks is a great first map for this, would be even better with vanilla Heretic's trademark E1M1 music.

The Hexen 2 version has a desert vibe with it; the Silverspring docks map looks rather wet, in contrast.

Heh. Why not use the Heretic 2 music then? But that would be ripping. Oh well.

Who cares? I'm using a remix of a Starfox Adventures song for Aquatic Remnant. I can easily grab the Heretic II Silverspring song.

Sure, why not? Heretic II docks song might fit good!!!!

Do mind it comes as a sampled sound, not a MIDI. It would take too much space because of this.

BUILD 48 NOW UP!!!! Torm approved of me updating Build 48 - in addition to the listed changes it also has all ofthe ne Heretic-ey powerups found on the REALM 667 powerups page, like the Ring of the Owl, FearMask, Boots of the North, etc!!!!

Silverspring Docks is again the first level - AND it has Heretic II music, and the second and thir levels (Crypts and Elven Wood) are complete! So the levels should be playtested the whole way through!!!!

Next for me to do is complete H2M1 (about 1/4 done) and H2M3 (about 3/4 done) - since H2M2 is done the first 3 levels of Episode *2*, now, will be properly playable as well!!!! Than complete my 'Tabernacle of Magma' map (H3-something), etc....

Hmm, would you be willing to put together a build 49 once I get the weapons in? Didn't think there would be a new build so soon.

Looking forward to seeing the new maps, though!