# ![](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/topic_icons/realm667_repo/user/rep_rejected.png) \[UPDATE\] elven sorceress - updated 22nd of June 2023 ## - **Amiga Angel** - ![Amiga Angel's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar12168.png?1682143732) Topic Author - Dark Imp - ![Dark Imp](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_41_darkimp.png) Less More- Posts: 9 - - 3 years 3 months ago - 3 years 1 month ago [\#10475](#10475) by Amiga Angel *[\[UPDATE\] elven sorceress - updated 22nd of June 2023](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/1857-update-elven-sorceress-updated-22nd-of-june-2023#10475 "Info: Name: elven sorceress Difficulty: easy Connection: N/A Summon: elvensorceress Melee: yes Distance: fireball Type: elven sorceress Game: doom, heretic, hexen, strife Credits: Submitted: Amiga Angel Decorate: N/A ZScript: Amiga Angel with help from Linus, JediMB and Boondorl Sprites: doom 2 by id software + ripped from might and magic 7 by cyrus annihilator Sprite Adaption: Amiga Angel Sounds: ripped from eldar scrolls 3 high elf female Idea Base: Amiga Angel GLDEFs: N/A Editor Number: 7777 Description: This elven sorceress will kill you on sight unless she is neutral.")* was created by *Amiga Angel* **Info:** Name: elven sorceress Difficulty: easy Connection: N/A Summon: elvensorceress Melee: yes Distance: fireball Type: elven sorceress Game: doom, heretic, hexen, strife **Credits:** Submitted: Amiga Angel Decorate: N/A ZScript: Amiga Angel with help from Linus, JediMB and Boondorl Sprites: doom 2 by id software + ripped from might and magic 7 by cyrus annihilator Sprite Adaption: Amiga Angel Sounds: ripped from eldar scrolls 3 high elf female Idea Base: Amiga Angel GLDEFs: N/A Editor Number: 7777 **Description:** This elven sorceress will kill you on sight unless she is neutral. - [ MMEPA0.png ![MMEPA0.png](https://www.realm667.com/forum/attachment/1405?download=1) ](https://www.realm667.com/forum/attachment/1405?download=1 "MMEPA0.png") [ ](https://www.realm667.com/forum/attachment/1405?download=1 "MMEPA0.png") Last edit: 3 years 1 month ago by Amiga Angel. Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8xODU3LXVwZGF0ZS1lbHZlbi1zb3JjZXJlc3MtdXBkYXRlZC0yMm5kLW9mLWp1bmUtMjAyMz9zdGFydD0w&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **Gothic** - ![Gothic's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar320.png?1619787674) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_20_barrel.png) Less More- Posts: 1329 - - - 3 years 3 months ago [\#10476](#10476) by Gothic Replied by *Gothic* on topic *[\[SUBMISSION\] npc elf peasant girl](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/1857-update-elven-sorceress-updated-22nd-of-june-2023#10476 "Info: Name: elven sorceress Difficulty: easy Connection: N/A Summon: elvensorceress Melee: yes Distance: fireball Type: elven sorceress Game: doom, heretic, hexen, strife Credits: Submitted: Amiga Angel Decorate: N/A ZScript: Amiga Angel with help from Linus, JediMB and Boondorl Sprites: doom 2 by id software + ripped from might and magic 7 by cyrus annihilator Sprite Adaption: Amiga Angel Sounds: ripped from eldar scrolls 3 high elf female Idea Base: Amiga Angel GLDEFs: N/A Editor Number: 7777 Description: This elven sorceress will kill you on sight unless she is neutral.")* I don't think this could have much use, if it is intended as an NPC, then at least it should fit one of the 4 main games (Doom, Heretic/Hexen, Strife) Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8xODU3LXVwZGF0ZS1lbHZlbi1zb3JjZXJlc3MtdXBkYXRlZC0yMm5kLW9mLWp1bmUtMjAyMz9zdGFydD0w&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **Amiga Angel** - ![Amiga Angel's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar12168.png?1682143732) Topic Author - Dark Imp - ![Dark Imp](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_41_darkimp.png) Less More- Posts: 9 - - 3 years 3 months ago - 3 years 3 months ago [\#10477](#10477) by Amiga Angel Replied by *Amiga Angel* on topic *[\[SUBMISSION\] npc elf peasant girl](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/1857-update-elven-sorceress-updated-22nd-of-june-2023#10477 "Info: Name: elven sorceress Difficulty: easy Connection: N/A Summon: elvensorceress Melee: yes Distance: fireball Type: elven sorceress Game: doom, heretic, hexen, strife Credits: Submitted: Amiga Angel Decorate: N/A ZScript: Amiga Angel with help from Linus, JediMB and Boondorl Sprites: doom 2 by id software + ripped from might and magic 7 by cyrus annihilator Sprite Adaption: Amiga Angel Sounds: ripped from eldar scrolls 3 high elf female Idea Base: Amiga Angel GLDEFs: N/A Editor Number: 7777 Description: This elven sorceress will kill you on sight unless she is neutral.")* I would guess that heretic/hexen would be the best fit for her. She would work well as a heretic/hexen shopkeeper. edit: I will try to see if I can make an update of her where she has some sort of attack. Last edit: 3 years 3 months ago by Amiga Angel. 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Her proportions in game look weird, instead of giving her different x & y scale, give her equal scaling. She also lacks a pain sound. Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8xODU3LXVwZGF0ZS1lbHZlbi1zb3JjZXJlc3MtdXBkYXRlZC0yMm5kLW9mLWp1bmUtMjAyMz9zdGFydD0w&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **Amiga Angel** - ![Amiga Angel's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar12168.png?1682143732) Topic Author - Dark Imp - ![Dark Imp](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_41_darkimp.png) Less More- Posts: 9 - - 3 years 1 month ago - 3 years 1 month ago [\#10635](#10635) by Amiga Angel Replied by *Amiga Angel* on topic *[\[UPDATE\] elven sorceress](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/1857-update-elven-sorceress-updated-22nd-of-june-2023#10635 "Info: Name: elven sorceress Difficulty: easy Connection: N/A Summon: elvensorceress Melee: yes Distance: fireball Type: elven sorceress Game: doom, heretic, hexen, strife Credits: Submitted: Amiga Angel Decorate: N/A ZScript: Amiga Angel with help from Linus, JediMB and Boondorl Sprites: doom 2 by id software + ripped from might and magic 7 by cyrus annihilator Sprite Adaption: Amiga Angel Sounds: ripped from eldar scrolls 3 high elf female Idea Base: Amiga Angel GLDEFs: N/A Editor Number: 7777 Description: This elven sorceress will kill you on sight unless she is neutral.")* elven sorceress updated new attack new stats new sounds new scale new projectile created from a baronball extra states extra sounds she can be a regular enemy, she can be an npc thats neutral until attacked and she can be a magic shop salesperson... update: #### File Attachment: File Name: [ elven-sorc...date.zip](https://www.realm667.com/forum/attachment/1461 "elven-sorceress-update.zip") File Size:862.42 KB Last edit: 3 years 1 month ago by Amiga Angel. Reason: updated file Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8xODU3LXVwZGF0ZS1lbHZlbi1zb3JjZXJlc3MtdXBkYXRlZC0yMm5kLW9mLWp1bmUtMjAyMz9zdGFydD0w&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **Gothic** - ![Gothic's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar320.png?1619787674) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_20_barrel.png) Less More- Posts: 1329 - - - 3 years 1 month ago - 3 years 1 month ago [\#10661](#10661) by Gothic Replied by *Gothic* on topic *[\[UPDATE\] elven sorceress - updated 22nd of June 2023](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/1857-update-elven-sorceress-updated-22nd-of-june-2023#10661 "Info: Name: elven sorceress Difficulty: easy Connection: N/A Summon: elvensorceress Melee: yes Distance: fireball Type: elven sorceress Game: doom, heretic, hexen, strife Credits: Submitted: Amiga Angel Decorate: N/A ZScript: Amiga Angel with help from Linus, JediMB and Boondorl Sprites: doom 2 by id software + ripped from might and magic 7 by cyrus annihilator Sprite Adaption: Amiga Angel Sounds: ripped from eldar scrolls 3 high elf female Idea Base: Amiga Angel GLDEFs: N/A Editor Number: 7777 Description: This elven sorceress will kill you on sight unless she is neutral.")* Ok, time to be brutally honest. Even with proper balancing, I don't think this would get approved. The main problem here is the sprites, I find them very unappealing. Sorry, but I'll pass this one. Last edit: 3 years 1 month ago by Gothic. Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8xODU3LXVwZGF0ZS1lbHZlbi1zb3JjZXJlc3MtdXBkYXRlZC0yMm5kLW9mLWp1bmUtMjAyMz9zdGFydD0w&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **CaptainToenail** - ![CaptainToenail's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar11652.png?1696711803) - Wicked - ![Wicked](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_81_wicked.png) Less More- Posts: 229 - - 3 years 1 month ago - 3 years 1 month ago [\#10671](#10671) by CaptainToenail Replied by *CaptainToenail* on topic *[\[UPDATE\] elven sorceress - updated 22nd of June 2023](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/1857-update-elven-sorceress-updated-22nd-of-june-2023#10671 "Info: Name: elven sorceress Difficulty: easy Connection: N/A Summon: elvensorceress Melee: yes Distance: fireball Type: elven sorceress Game: doom, heretic, hexen, strife Credits: Submitted: Amiga Angel Decorate: N/A ZScript: Amiga Angel with help from Linus, JediMB and Boondorl Sprites: doom 2 by id software + ripped from might and magic 7 by cyrus annihilator Sprite Adaption: Amiga Angel Sounds: ripped from eldar scrolls 3 high elf female Idea Base: Amiga Angel GLDEFs: N/A Editor Number: 7777 Description: This elven sorceress will kill you on sight unless she is neutral.")* I have experimented with these Might and Magic sprites in the past - it is possible to get them to fit in with the Hexen art style to a degree, but it's not perfect. The end result is quite rough but they don't look as out-of-place in-game. First you have to resize the entire spritesheet to match the dimensions of the Hexen sprites (they appear a bit squat but they look normal in-game) - this step takes a bit of trial-and-error. You also have to reduce the brightness of the sprites to match (around -50%), increase the contrast slightly (10?), and it also helps to manually tweak the colours to match the Hexen palette - index them to the Hexen palette if you can without degrading them. You can also delete every second animation frame as the M&M stuff has double the framerate for the animation and apply antialiasing to smooth them out. It's quite a bit of work though and some of the creatures are too thin and spindly to survive the resize. Here's an example of the Druidess, a Crystal Ice Demon and a Wyvern modified to fit Hexen style with this approach. It may be worth a try adopting a similar approach for this Sorceress. - [ ...D\_2 - Copy.png ![MM_DRUID_2 - Copy.png](https://www.realm667.com/forum/attachment/1481?download=1) ](https://www.realm667.com/forum/attachment/1481?download=1 "...D_2 - Copy.png") [ ](https://www.realm667.com/forum/attachment/1481?download=1 "...D_2 - Copy.png") Last edit: 3 years 1 month ago by CaptainToenail. Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8xODU3LXVwZGF0ZS1lbHZlbi1zb3JjZXJlc3MtdXBkYXRlZC0yMm5kLW9mLWp1bmUtMjAyMz9zdGFydD0w&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **Amiga Angel** - ![Amiga Angel's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar12168.png?1682143732) Topic Author - Dark Imp - ![Dark Imp](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_41_darkimp.png) Less More- Posts: 9 - - 3 years 1 month ago [\#10672](#10672) by Amiga Angel Replied by *Amiga Angel* on topic *[\[UPDATE\] elven sorceress - updated 22nd of June 2023](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/1857-update-elven-sorceress-updated-22nd-of-june-2023#10672 "Info: Name: elven sorceress Difficulty: easy Connection: N/A Summon: elvensorceress Melee: yes Distance: fireball Type: elven sorceress Game: doom, heretic, hexen, strife Credits: Submitted: Amiga Angel Decorate: N/A ZScript: Amiga Angel with help from Linus, JediMB and Boondorl Sprites: doom 2 by id software + ripped from might and magic 7 by cyrus annihilator Sprite Adaption: Amiga Angel Sounds: ripped from eldar scrolls 3 high elf female Idea Base: Amiga Angel GLDEFs: N/A Editor Number: 7777 Description: This elven sorceress will kill you on sight unless she is neutral.")* ok fair enough ---- I may take captain toenails advice about might and magic enemies and try again with this sprite but for hexen and going through the process he mentions and I could try recoloring it... would that be something worth doing or do you think I should try a completely different sprite for my next attempt? I have another enemy based on a sprite from shadow of the beast, floating eyes, a version with a melee attack and one with a ranged attack... they are fairly simple lost souls variants though ...but I guess I could post them as well at some point ... also working on a tower type enemy using modified sprites from shadow of the beast Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8xODU3LXVwZGF0ZS1lbHZlbi1zb3JjZXJlc3MtdXBkYXRlZC0yMm5kLW9mLWp1bmUtMjAyMz9zdGFydD0w&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **CaptainToenail** - ![CaptainToenail's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar11652.png?1696711803) - Wicked - ![Wicked](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_81_wicked.png) Less More- Posts: 229 - - 3 years 3 weeks ago - 3 years 3 weeks ago [\#10739](#10739) by CaptainToenail Replied by *CaptainToenail* on topic *[\[UPDATE\] elven sorceress - updated 22nd of June 2023](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/1857-update-elven-sorceress-updated-22nd-of-june-2023#10739 "Info: Name: elven sorceress Difficulty: easy Connection: N/A Summon: elvensorceress Melee: yes Distance: fireball Type: elven sorceress Game: doom, heretic, hexen, strife Credits: Submitted: Amiga Angel Decorate: N/A ZScript: Amiga Angel with help from Linus, JediMB and Boondorl Sprites: doom 2 by id software + ripped from might and magic 7 by cyrus annihilator Sprite Adaption: Amiga Angel Sounds: ripped from eldar scrolls 3 high elf female Idea Base: Amiga Angel GLDEFs: N/A Editor Number: 7777 Description: This elven sorceress will kill you on sight unless she is neutral.")* I had a go at trying to match the Might & Magic sprites to Heretic's Corvus. I have no idea how this looks or animates in game. She might be a little distorted. - [ ...asant\_girl.png ![mm_elven_peasant_girl.png](https://www.realm667.com/forum/attachment/1518?download=1) ](https://www.realm667.com/forum/attachment/1518?download=1 "...asant_girl.png") [ ](https://www.realm667.com/forum/attachment/1518?download=1 "...asant_girl.png") Last edit: 3 years 3 weeks ago by CaptainToenail. Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8xODU3LXVwZGF0ZS1lbHZlbi1zb3JjZXJlc3MtdXBkYXRlZC0yMm5kLW9mLWp1bmUtMjAyMz9zdGFydD0w&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **Amiga Angel** - ![Amiga Angel's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar12168.png?1682143732) Topic Author - Dark Imp - ![Dark Imp](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_41_darkimp.png) Less More- Posts: 9 - - 3 years 3 weeks ago [\#10740](#10740) by Amiga Angel Replied by *Amiga Angel* on topic *[\[UPDATE\] elven sorceress - updated 22nd of June 2023](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/1857-update-elven-sorceress-updated-22nd-of-june-2023#10740 "Info: Name: elven sorceress Difficulty: easy Connection: N/A Summon: elvensorceress Melee: yes Distance: fireball Type: elven sorceress Game: doom, heretic, hexen, strife Credits: Submitted: Amiga Angel Decorate: N/A ZScript: Amiga Angel with help from Linus, JediMB and Boondorl Sprites: doom 2 by id software + ripped from might and magic 7 by cyrus annihilator Sprite Adaption: Amiga Angel Sounds: ripped from eldar scrolls 3 high elf female Idea Base: Amiga Angel GLDEFs: N/A Editor Number: 7777 Description: This elven sorceress will kill you on sight unless she is neutral.")* thanks I kinda like it. 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