# ![](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/topic_icons/realm667_repo/user/rep_rejected.png) \[SUBMISSION\] Mind Elemental ## - **Ganbare-Lucifer** - ![Ganbare-Lucifer's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar11427.png?1773259679) Topic Author - BFG Commando - ![BFG Commando](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_8_bfgcommando.png) Less More- Posts: 154 - - - 2 years 11 months ago [\#10944](#10944) by Ganbare-Lucifer *[\[SUBMISSION\] Mind Elemental](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/1929-submission-mind-elemental#10944 "Name: Mind Elemental Difficulty: Medium Connections: None Summon: MindElemental Melee: No Distance: Projectile Type: Demon GLDEFs: Yes Submitted: Ganbare-Lucifer Mind Elemental Credits: Decorate: Xaser, Ganbare-Lucifer GLDEFs: Dreadopp, Ganbare-Lucifer Sounds: Id Software Sprites: Id Software Sprite Edit: Assmaster, Ganbare-Lucifer Psychic Soul Credits: Decorate: Maelstrom GLDEFs: Dreadopp Sounds: Id Software, Monolith Games Sprites: Id Software Sprite Edit: Neoworm, Maelstrom, Ganbare-Lucifer An Elemental that has been mouth-sealed due to its dangerous mind-damaging psychopathy, which is set loose once killed, releasing the annoying hitscanning Psychic Souls. (The new Psychic Soul sprites are optional, you can update them if you like) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lfPKz5T7rmo3k1C4CEyMcdwnf77D_M4d/view?usp=drive_link")* was created by *Ganbare-Lucifer* Name: Mind Elemental Difficulty: Medium Connections: None Summon: MindElemental Melee: No Distance: Projectile Type: Demon GLDEFs: Yes Submitted: Ganbare-Lucifer Mind Elemental Credits: Decorate: Xaser, Ganbare-Lucifer GLDEFs: Dreadopp, Ganbare-Lucifer Sounds: Id Software Sprites: Id Software Sprite Edit: Assmaster, Ganbare-Lucifer Psychic Soul Credits: Decorate: Maelstrom GLDEFs: Dreadopp Sounds: Id Software, Monolith Games Sprites: Id Software Sprite Edit: Neoworm, Maelstrom, Ganbare-Lucifer An Elemental that has been mouth-sealed due to its dangerous mind-damaging psychopathy, which is set loose once killed, releasing the annoying hitscanning Psychic Souls. [ ![MDELA1.png](https://www.realm667.com/forum/attachment/1611) ](https://www.realm667.com/forum/attachment/1611 "MDELA1.png") [ ![PSULA1.png](https://www.realm667.com/forum/attachment/1612) ](https://www.realm667.com/forum/attachment/1612 "PSULA1.png") (The new Psychic Soul sprites are optional, you can update them if you like) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lfPKz5T7rmo3k1C4CEyMcdwnf77D_M4d/view?usp=drive_link Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8xOTI5LXN1Ym1pc3Npb24tbWluZC1lbGVtZW50YWw=&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **Gothic** - ![Gothic's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar320.png?1619787674) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_20_barrel.png) Less More- Posts: 1329 - - - 2 years 10 months ago [\#10983](#10983) by Gothic Replied by *Gothic* on topic *[\[SUBMISSION\] Mind Elemental](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/1929-submission-mind-elemental#10983 "Name: Mind Elemental Difficulty: Medium Connections: None Summon: MindElemental Melee: No Distance: Projectile Type: Demon GLDEFs: Yes Submitted: Ganbare-Lucifer Mind Elemental Credits: Decorate: Xaser, Ganbare-Lucifer GLDEFs: Dreadopp, Ganbare-Lucifer Sounds: Id Software Sprites: Id Software Sprite Edit: Assmaster, Ganbare-Lucifer Psychic Soul Credits: Decorate: Maelstrom GLDEFs: Dreadopp Sounds: Id Software, Monolith Games Sprites: Id Software Sprite Edit: Neoworm, Maelstrom, Ganbare-Lucifer An Elemental that has been mouth-sealed due to its dangerous mind-damaging psychopathy, which is set loose once killed, releasing the annoying hitscanning Psychic Souls. (The new Psychic Soul sprites are optional, you can update them if you like) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lfPKz5T7rmo3k1C4CEyMcdwnf77D_M4d/view?usp=drive_link")* To be brutally honest, I don't think this could get much use, it's just a recolor of the Tortured Soul that acts just like the Psychic Soul with more health. I'll wait to see what other people has to say. The Psychic Souls calls for a script that doesn't exist when it attacks. Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8xOTI5LXN1Ym1pc3Npb24tbWluZC1lbGVtZW50YWw=&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **Ganbare-Lucifer** - ![Ganbare-Lucifer's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar11427.png?1773259679) Topic Author - BFG Commando - ![BFG Commando](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_8_bfgcommando.png) Less More- Posts: 154 - - - 2 years 10 months ago [\#10988](#10988) by Ganbare-Lucifer Replied by *Ganbare-Lucifer* on topic *[\[SUBMISSION\] Mind Elemental](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/1929-submission-mind-elemental#10988 "Name: Mind Elemental Difficulty: Medium Connections: None Summon: MindElemental Melee: No Distance: Projectile Type: Demon GLDEFs: Yes Submitted: Ganbare-Lucifer Mind Elemental Credits: Decorate: Xaser, Ganbare-Lucifer GLDEFs: Dreadopp, Ganbare-Lucifer Sounds: Id Software Sprites: Id Software Sprite Edit: Assmaster, Ganbare-Lucifer Psychic Soul Credits: Decorate: Maelstrom GLDEFs: Dreadopp Sounds: Id Software, Monolith Games Sprites: Id Software Sprite Edit: Neoworm, Maelstrom, Ganbare-Lucifer An Elemental that has been mouth-sealed due to its dangerous mind-damaging psychopathy, which is set loose once killed, releasing the annoying hitscanning Psychic Souls. (The new Psychic Soul sprites are optional, you can update them if you like) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lfPKz5T7rmo3k1C4CEyMcdwnf77D_M4d/view?usp=drive_link")* > [ Gothic wrote: ](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/1929-submission-mind-elemental#10983) > > To be brutally honest, I don't think this could get much use, it's just a recolor of the Tortured Soul that acts just like the Psychic Soul with more health. I'll wait to see what other people has to say. > The Psychic Souls calls for a script that doesn't exist when it attacks. Well, at least I will get to fix the script fix which was from the VDP Monster Randomizer Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8xOTI5LXN1Ym1pc3Npb24tbWluZC1lbGVtZW50YWw=&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **Kan3** - ![Kan3's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar11916.jpg?1664060928) - Lost Soul - ![Lost Soul](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_7_skull.png) Less More- Posts: 78 - - 2 years 10 months ago [\#10990](#10990) by Kan3 Replied by *Kan3* on topic *[\[SUBMISSION\] Mind Elemental](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/1929-submission-mind-elemental#10990 "Name: Mind Elemental Difficulty: Medium Connections: None Summon: MindElemental Melee: No Distance: Projectile Type: Demon GLDEFs: Yes Submitted: Ganbare-Lucifer Mind Elemental Credits: Decorate: Xaser, Ganbare-Lucifer GLDEFs: Dreadopp, Ganbare-Lucifer Sounds: Id Software Sprites: Id Software Sprite Edit: Assmaster, Ganbare-Lucifer Psychic Soul Credits: Decorate: Maelstrom GLDEFs: Dreadopp Sounds: Id Software, Monolith Games Sprites: Id Software Sprite Edit: Neoworm, Maelstrom, Ganbare-Lucifer An Elemental that has been mouth-sealed due to its dangerous mind-damaging psychopathy, which is set loose once killed, releasing the annoying hitscanning Psychic Souls. (The new Psychic Soul sprites are optional, you can update them if you like) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lfPKz5T7rmo3k1C4CEyMcdwnf77D_M4d/view?usp=drive_link")* I feel like a Mind Elemental should "trick" the player's mind in some ways to make it unique. For example you could make the player blind for a couple of seconds, make his vision to be distorted with A_Quake or something like that. Giving a custom damage type would be nice too. Also: why does he spawn the NullProjectile instead of using an actual hitscan attack? You're giving that actor a 255 speed value which is insane, not to mention you're not even inheriting from FastProjectile ![D:](https://www.realm667.com/angry.gif "D:") Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8xOTI5LXN1Ym1pc3Npb24tbWluZC1lbGVtZW50YWw=&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **Ganbare-Lucifer** - ![Ganbare-Lucifer's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar11427.png?1773259679) Topic Author - BFG Commando - ![BFG Commando](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_8_bfgcommando.png) Less More- Posts: 154 - - - 2 years 10 months ago [\#10995](#10995) by Ganbare-Lucifer Replied by *Ganbare-Lucifer* on topic *[\[SUBMISSION\] Mind Elemental](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/1929-submission-mind-elemental#10995 "Name: Mind Elemental Difficulty: Medium Connections: None Summon: MindElemental Melee: No Distance: Projectile Type: Demon GLDEFs: Yes Submitted: Ganbare-Lucifer Mind Elemental Credits: Decorate: Xaser, Ganbare-Lucifer GLDEFs: Dreadopp, Ganbare-Lucifer Sounds: Id Software Sprites: Id Software Sprite Edit: Assmaster, Ganbare-Lucifer Psychic Soul Credits: Decorate: Maelstrom GLDEFs: Dreadopp Sounds: Id Software, Monolith Games Sprites: Id Software Sprite Edit: Neoworm, Maelstrom, Ganbare-Lucifer An Elemental that has been mouth-sealed due to its dangerous mind-damaging psychopathy, which is set loose once killed, releasing the annoying hitscanning Psychic Souls. (The new Psychic Soul sprites are optional, you can update them if you like) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lfPKz5T7rmo3k1C4CEyMcdwnf77D_M4d/view?usp=drive_link")* > [ Kan3 wrote: ](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/1929-submission-mind-elemental#10990) > > I feel like a Mind Elemental should "trick" the player's mind in some ways to make it unique. > For example you could make the player blind for a couple of seconds, make his vision to be distorted with A\_Quake or something like that. > > Giving a custom damage type would be nice too. > > Also: why does he spawn the NullProjectile instead of using an actual hitscan attack? > You're giving that actor a 255 speed value which is insane, not to mention you're not even inheriting from FastProjectile ![D:](https://www.realm667.com/angry.gif "D:") Can something like this work? I don't know much about coding, so this may give an error when booting Doom. Code: actor MindElementalBall { Radius 8 Height 6 Speed 20 Damage 5 PROJECTILE RENDERSTYLE ADD ALPHA 0.45 DeathSound "imp/shotx" States { Spawn: MEBL ABCD 4 Loop Death: TNT1 A 0 A_GiveInventory("MindElementalEffect", 1) MEBL EFGHIJK 4 Stop } } actor MindElementalEffect : CustomInventory { Inventory.Amount 1 Inventory.MaxAmount 1 -COUNTITEM states { Spawn: TNT1 A 0 A_SetBlend("00 00 99", .5, 5) TNT1 A 0 A_SetBlend("50 00 50", .5, 5) TNT1 A 0 A_SetBlend("00 00 99", .5, 5) TNT1 A 0 A_SetBlend("50 00 50", .5, 5) stop Death: TNT1 A 0 A_TakeInventory("MindElementalEffect", 1) stop } } Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8xOTI5LXN1Ym1pc3Npb24tbWluZC1lbGVtZW50YWw=&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **Kan3** - ![Kan3's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar11916.jpg?1664060928) - Lost Soul - ![Lost Soul](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_7_skull.png) Less More- Posts: 78 - - 2 years 10 months ago [\#10998](#10998) by Kan3 Replied by *Kan3* on topic *[\[SUBMISSION\] Mind Elemental](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/1929-submission-mind-elemental#10998 "Name: Mind Elemental Difficulty: Medium Connections: None Summon: MindElemental Melee: No Distance: Projectile Type: Demon GLDEFs: Yes Submitted: Ganbare-Lucifer Mind Elemental Credits: Decorate: Xaser, Ganbare-Lucifer GLDEFs: Dreadopp, Ganbare-Lucifer Sounds: Id Software Sprites: Id Software Sprite Edit: Assmaster, Ganbare-Lucifer Psychic Soul Credits: Decorate: Maelstrom GLDEFs: Dreadopp Sounds: Id Software, Monolith Games Sprites: Id Software Sprite Edit: Neoworm, Maelstrom, Ganbare-Lucifer An Elemental that has been mouth-sealed due to its dangerous mind-damaging psychopathy, which is set loose once killed, releasing the annoying hitscanning Psychic Souls. (The new Psychic Soul sprites are optional, you can update them if you like) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lfPKz5T7rmo3k1C4CEyMcdwnf77D_M4d/view?usp=drive_link")* Well, it's missing several vital parts. You need to let the projectile *know* who to give the screen-blending item, so you have to add something like the **HITTRACER** flag to the projectile and then point that in the **A\_GiveInventory** function with **AAPTR\_TRACER**. About the item instead: You don't need to remove the COUNTITEM flag (it's not there to begin with) and you have to call the functions to wish to use (in this case) within the **Pickup** state, not the Spawn nor the Death (the item won't be spawned and won't die). Also, you're calling for A_SetBlend 4 times in a row with no delay, so they will just override one another instantly and only the last one will start. You could make something like this: Code: ... Pickup: TNT1 AA 10 A_SetBlend("00 00 99", 0.5, 10, "50 00 50") //I believe this would do for what you were aiming for Stop There's no need to remove it from the player's inventory because it won't be placed in there (if I read the wiki correctly) Not a 100% fan of this process, because we're missing some checks, but it should work in DECORATE Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8xOTI5LXN1Ym1pc3Npb24tbWluZC1lbGVtZW50YWw=&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **Ganbare-Lucifer** - ![Ganbare-Lucifer's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar11427.png?1773259679) Topic Author - BFG Commando - ![BFG Commando](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_8_bfgcommando.png) Less More- Posts: 154 - - - 2 years 9 months ago [\#11053](#11053) by Ganbare-Lucifer Replied by *Ganbare-Lucifer* on topic *[\[SUBMISSION\] Mind Elemental](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/1929-submission-mind-elemental#11053 "Name: Mind Elemental Difficulty: Medium Connections: None Summon: MindElemental Melee: No Distance: Projectile Type: Demon GLDEFs: Yes Submitted: Ganbare-Lucifer Mind Elemental Credits: Decorate: Xaser, Ganbare-Lucifer GLDEFs: Dreadopp, Ganbare-Lucifer Sounds: Id Software Sprites: Id Software Sprite Edit: Assmaster, Ganbare-Lucifer Psychic Soul Credits: Decorate: Maelstrom GLDEFs: Dreadopp Sounds: Id Software, Monolith Games Sprites: Id Software Sprite Edit: Neoworm, Maelstrom, Ganbare-Lucifer An Elemental that has been mouth-sealed due to its dangerous mind-damaging psychopathy, which is set loose once killed, releasing the annoying hitscanning Psychic Souls. (The new Psychic Soul sprites are optional, you can update them if you like) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lfPKz5T7rmo3k1C4CEyMcdwnf77D_M4d/view?usp=drive_link")* Alrite, will put it on test. Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8xOTI5LXN1Ym1pc3Npb24tbWluZC1lbGVtZW50YWw=&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **Gothic** - ![Gothic's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar320.png?1619787674) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_20_barrel.png) Less More- Posts: 1329 - - - 2 years 5 months ago [\#11610](#11610) by Gothic Replied by *Gothic* on topic *[\[SUBMISSION\] Mind Elemental](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/1929-submission-mind-elemental#11610 "Name: Mind Elemental Difficulty: Medium Connections: None Summon: MindElemental Melee: No Distance: Projectile Type: Demon GLDEFs: Yes Submitted: Ganbare-Lucifer Mind Elemental Credits: Decorate: Xaser, Ganbare-Lucifer GLDEFs: Dreadopp, Ganbare-Lucifer Sounds: Id Software Sprites: Id Software Sprite Edit: Assmaster, Ganbare-Lucifer Psychic Soul Credits: Decorate: Maelstrom GLDEFs: Dreadopp Sounds: Id Software, Monolith Games Sprites: Id Software Sprite Edit: Neoworm, Maelstrom, Ganbare-Lucifer An Elemental that has been mouth-sealed due to its dangerous mind-damaging psychopathy, which is set loose once killed, releasing the annoying hitscanning Psychic Souls. (The new Psychic Soul sprites are optional, you can update them if you like) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lfPKz5T7rmo3k1C4CEyMcdwnf77D_M4d/view?usp=drive_link")* Any update on this? Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8xOTI5LXN1Ym1pc3Npb24tbWluZC1lbGVtZW50YWw=&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **Ganbare-Lucifer** - ![Ganbare-Lucifer's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar11427.png?1773259679) Topic Author - BFG Commando - ![BFG Commando](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_8_bfgcommando.png) Less More- Posts: 154 - - - 2 years 5 months ago [\#11625](#11625) by Ganbare-Lucifer Replied by *Ganbare-Lucifer* on topic *[\[SUBMISSION\] Mind Elemental](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/1929-submission-mind-elemental#11625 "Name: Mind Elemental Difficulty: Medium Connections: None Summon: MindElemental Melee: No Distance: Projectile Type: Demon GLDEFs: Yes Submitted: Ganbare-Lucifer Mind Elemental Credits: Decorate: Xaser, Ganbare-Lucifer GLDEFs: Dreadopp, Ganbare-Lucifer Sounds: Id Software Sprites: Id Software Sprite Edit: Assmaster, Ganbare-Lucifer Psychic Soul Credits: Decorate: Maelstrom GLDEFs: Dreadopp Sounds: Id Software, Monolith Games Sprites: Id Software Sprite Edit: Neoworm, Maelstrom, Ganbare-Lucifer An Elemental that has been mouth-sealed due to its dangerous mind-damaging psychopathy, which is set loose once killed, releasing the annoying hitscanning Psychic Souls. (The new Psychic Soul sprites are optional, you can update them if you like) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lfPKz5T7rmo3k1C4CEyMcdwnf77D_M4d/view?usp=drive_link")* Testing send message? It sent? Good. I was unable to post because of the block again. I'm polishing the last stuff. Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8xOTI5LXN1Ym1pc3Npb24tbWluZC1lbGVtZW50YWw=&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **Gothic** - ![Gothic's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar320.png?1619787674) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_20_barrel.png) Less More- Posts: 1329 - - - 1 year 10 months ago [\#12484](#12484) by Gothic Replied by *Gothic* on topic *[\[SUBMISSION\] Mind Elemental](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/1929-submission-mind-elemental#12484 "Name: Mind Elemental Difficulty: Medium Connections: None Summon: MindElemental Melee: No Distance: Projectile Type: Demon GLDEFs: Yes Submitted: Ganbare-Lucifer Mind Elemental Credits: Decorate: Xaser, Ganbare-Lucifer GLDEFs: Dreadopp, Ganbare-Lucifer Sounds: Id Software Sprites: Id Software Sprite Edit: Assmaster, Ganbare-Lucifer Psychic Soul Credits: Decorate: Maelstrom GLDEFs: Dreadopp Sounds: Id Software, Monolith Games Sprites: Id Software Sprite Edit: Neoworm, Maelstrom, Ganbare-Lucifer An Elemental that has been mouth-sealed due to its dangerous mind-damaging psychopathy, which is set loose once killed, releasing the annoying hitscanning Psychic Souls. (The new Psychic Soul sprites are optional, you can update them if you like) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lfPKz5T7rmo3k1C4CEyMcdwnf77D_M4d/view?usp=drive_link")* Closing this due to lack of activity. Also still not sold on it. Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8xOTI5LXN1Ym1pc3Npb24tbWluZC1lbGVtZW50YWw=&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. [Powered by](https://www.realm667.com/forum/credits) [Kunena Forum](https://www.kunena.org)