# ![](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/topic_icons/realm667_repo/user/rep_approved.png) \[SUBMISSION\] Blacktail Covert ## - **LossForWords** - ![LossForWords's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar12192.png?1714782788) Topic Author - Chaingunner - ![Chaingunner](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_6_chaingunner.png) Less More- Posts: 50 - - - - 2 years 3 months ago - 2 years 3 months ago [\#11896](#11896) by LossForWords *[\[SUBMISSION\] Blacktail Covert](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/2059-submission-blacktail-covert#11896 "Name: Blacktail Connector Class: 2 Type: Hitscan Palette: Doom Summon: BTConnector Ammo Type: Clip (Reserve), BTLoaded (Magazine) Altfire: Yes Powered Mode: No Brightmaps: No Actor modification: No ACS: No A classic American model, fitted with a suppressor, an 8x scope, and a red dot for stealth assignments. The red dot is affected by auto aim, and glows brighter when targeting enemies. The suppressor makes the gun dead silent, and the gun shoots faster when tapping fire instead of holding. Altfire uses the scope. Credits in file.")* was created by *LossForWords* Name: Blacktail Connector Class: 2 Type: Hitscan Palette: Doom Summon: BTConnector Ammo Type: Clip (Reserve), BTLoaded (Magazine) Altfire: Yes Powered Mode: No Brightmaps: No Actor modification: No ACS: No A classic American model, fitted with a suppressor, an 8x scope, and a red dot for stealth assignments. The red dot is affected by auto aim, and glows brighter when targeting enemies. The suppressor makes the gun dead silent, and the gun shoots faster when tapping fire instead of holding. Altfire uses the scope. Credits in file. - [ SOCPA0.png ![SOCPA0.png](https://www.realm667.com/forum/attachment/2226?download=1) ](https://www.realm667.com/forum/attachment/2226?download=1 "SOCPA0.png") [ ](https://www.realm667.com/forum/attachment/2226?download=1 "SOCPA0.png") - [ SOCOA0.png ![SOCOA0.png](https://www.realm667.com/forum/attachment/2227?download=1) ](https://www.realm667.com/forum/attachment/2227?download=1 "SOCOA0.png") [ ](https://www.realm667.com/forum/attachment/2227?download=1 "SOCOA0.png") - [ BTConnector.zip ](https://www.realm667.com/forum/attachment/2228?download=1 "BTConnector.zip") [ ](https://www.realm667.com/forum/attachment/2228?download=1 "BTConnector.zip") Last edit: 2 years 3 months ago by LossForWords. Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8yMDU5LXN1Ym1pc3Npb24tYmxhY2t0YWlsLWNvdmVydA==&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **Gothic** - ![Gothic's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar320.png?1619787674) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_20_barrel.png) Less More- Posts: 1329 - - - 2 years 3 months ago [\#11899](#11899) by Gothic Replied by *Gothic* on topic *[\[SUBMISSION\] Blacktail Covert](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/2059-submission-blacktail-covert#11899 "Name: Blacktail Connector Class: 2 Type: Hitscan Palette: Doom Summon: BTConnector Ammo Type: Clip (Reserve), BTLoaded (Magazine) Altfire: Yes Powered Mode: No Brightmaps: No Actor modification: No ACS: No A classic American model, fitted with a suppressor, an 8x scope, and a red dot for stealth assignments. The red dot is affected by auto aim, and glows brighter when targeting enemies. The suppressor makes the gun dead silent, and the gun shoots faster when tapping fire instead of holding. Altfire uses the scope. Credits in file.")* Did you made the code and gldefs, right? Because it's not specified in the credits. Next time please follow the template in the submission rules. Other than that, I have no complains about this, it's really well made. 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The red dot is affected by auto aim, and glows brighter when targeting enemies. The suppressor makes the gun dead silent, and the gun shoots faster when tapping fire instead of holding. Altfire uses the scope. Credits in file.")* Did you actually make this one? This one is Part of the Zero Tolerance Doom mod. Edit: it's called a Prophet .45 Cal Just sayin. Last edit: 2 years 3 months ago by Gunslahyer\_Pi. Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8yMDU5LXN1Ym1pc3Npb24tYmxhY2t0YWlsLWNvdmVydA==&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **DeVloek** - ![DeVloek's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar11145.png?1542216928) - Arachnotron - ![Arachnotron](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_10_arachno.png) Less More- Posts: 416 - - 2 years 3 months ago - 2 years 3 months ago [\#11905](#11905) by DeVloek Replied by *DeVloek* on topic *[\[SUBMISSION\] Blacktail Covert](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/2059-submission-blacktail-covert#11905 "Name: Blacktail Connector Class: 2 Type: Hitscan Palette: Doom Summon: BTConnector Ammo Type: Clip (Reserve), BTLoaded (Magazine) Altfire: Yes Powered Mode: No Brightmaps: No Actor modification: No ACS: No A classic American model, fitted with a suppressor, an 8x scope, and a red dot for stealth assignments. The red dot is affected by auto aim, and glows brighter when targeting enemies. The suppressor makes the gun dead silent, and the gun shoots faster when tapping fire instead of holding. Altfire uses the scope. Credits in file.")* > [ Gunslahyer\_Pi wrote: ](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/2059-submission-blacktail-covert#11904) > > Did you actually make this one? This one is > Part of the Zero Tolerance Doom mod. > > Edit: it's called a Prophet .45 Cal > > Just sayin. Zero Tolerance took the weapon sprites straight from Duke Nukem 64, afaik without any changes. OP credited Eurocom (who made DN64), and most likely took the sprites from there as well and not the Zero Tolerance mod. @LossForWords When you get your credits in order, put your actual screenname/handle instead of "edited by me", no one knows who "me" is supposed to be. Last edit: 2 years 3 months ago by DeVloek. 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The red dot is affected by auto aim, and glows brighter when targeting enemies. The suppressor makes the gun dead silent, and the gun shoots faster when tapping fire instead of holding. Altfire uses the scope. Credits in file.")* My apologies. Forgot about that. Yeah it's A rip from DN64. Sincerest apologies Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8yMDU5LXN1Ym1pc3Npb24tYmxhY2t0YWlsLWNvdmVydA==&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **LossForWords** - ![LossForWords's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar12192.png?1714782788) Topic Author - Chaingunner - ![Chaingunner](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_6_chaingunner.png) Less More- Posts: 50 - - - - 2 years 3 months ago [\#11909](#11909) by LossForWords Replied by *LossForWords* on topic *[\[SUBMISSION\] Blacktail Covert](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/2059-submission-blacktail-covert#11909 "Name: Blacktail Connector Class: 2 Type: Hitscan Palette: Doom Summon: BTConnector Ammo Type: Clip (Reserve), BTLoaded (Magazine) Altfire: Yes Powered Mode: No Brightmaps: No Actor modification: No ACS: No A classic American model, fitted with a suppressor, an 8x scope, and a red dot for stealth assignments. The red dot is affected by auto aim, and glows brighter when targeting enemies. The suppressor makes the gun dead silent, and the gun shoots faster when tapping fire instead of holding. Altfire uses the scope. Credits in file.")* Yes. Code, sprites and GLDEFS are mine. And the sprite is an edit of the original DN64 pistol, grayscaled, Doom palette'd and silenced. Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8yMDU5LXN1Ym1pc3Npb24tYmxhY2t0YWlsLWNvdmVydA==&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **LossForWords** - ![LossForWords's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar12192.png?1714782788) Topic Author - Chaingunner - ![Chaingunner](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_6_chaingunner.png) Less More- Posts: 50 - - - - 2 years 3 months ago [\#11910](#11910) by LossForWords Replied by *LossForWords* on topic *[\[SUBMISSION\] Blacktail Covert](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/2059-submission-blacktail-covert#11910 "Name: Blacktail Connector Class: 2 Type: Hitscan Palette: Doom Summon: BTConnector Ammo Type: Clip (Reserve), BTLoaded (Magazine) Altfire: Yes Powered Mode: No Brightmaps: No Actor modification: No ACS: No A classic American model, fitted with a suppressor, an 8x scope, and a red dot for stealth assignments. The red dot is affected by auto aim, and glows brighter when targeting enemies. The suppressor makes the gun dead silent, and the gun shoots faster when tapping fire instead of holding. Altfire uses the scope. Credits in file.")* Update: Corrected credits. Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8yMDU5LXN1Ym1pc3Npb24tYmxhY2t0YWlsLWNvdmVydA==&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **Gothic** - ![Gothic's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar320.png?1619787674) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_20_barrel.png) Less More- Posts: 1329 - - - 2 years 3 months ago [\#11912](#11912) by Gothic Replied by *Gothic* on topic *[\[SUBMISSION\] Blacktail Covert](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/2059-submission-blacktail-covert#11912 "Name: Blacktail Connector Class: 2 Type: Hitscan Palette: Doom Summon: BTConnector Ammo Type: Clip (Reserve), BTLoaded (Magazine) Altfire: Yes Powered Mode: No Brightmaps: No Actor modification: No ACS: No A classic American model, fitted with a suppressor, an 8x scope, and a red dot for stealth assignments. The red dot is affected by auto aim, and glows brighter when targeting enemies. The suppressor makes the gun dead silent, and the gun shoots faster when tapping fire instead of holding. Altfire uses the scope. Credits in file.")* I think we have a problem here. I forgot that we had a weapon with very similar sprites and behavior in the armory: the [ Reaper.](https://www.realm667.com/en/repository-18489/armory-mainmenu-157-97317/doom-style-mainmenu-158-94349/997-reaper) Of course it's not the same sprites, yours have better shading for the silencer. We have allowed weapons with samey sprites in the past, like the [ Coachgun](https://www.realm667.com/en/repository-18489/armory-mainmenu-157-97317/doom-style-mainmenu-158-94349/877-coachgun) and [ Side by Side shotgun,](https://www.realm667.com/en/repository-18489/armory-mainmenu-157-97317/doom-style-mainmenu-158-94349/1041-side-by-side-shotgun) the [ Pump Action shotgun](https://www.realm667.com/en/repository-18489/armory-mainmenu-157-97317/doom-style-mainmenu-158-94349/664-pump-action-shotgun) and the [ SPAS-12](https://www.realm667.com/en/repository-18489/armory-mainmenu-157-97317/doom-style-mainmenu-158-94349/673-spas-12), and the unmodded Duke64 pistol appears as the [ Mag .60,](https://www.realm667.com/en/repository-18489/armory-mainmenu-157-97317/doom-style-mainmenu-158-94349/955-mag-60) but it's something I would like to avoid in the future. Any suggestion to solve this? I would suggest using different sprites. Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8yMDU5LXN1Ym1pc3Npb24tYmxhY2t0YWlsLWNvdmVydA==&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **DeVloek** - ![DeVloek's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar11145.png?1542216928) - Arachnotron - ![Arachnotron](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_10_arachno.png) Less More- Posts: 416 - - 2 years 3 months ago [\#11913](#11913) by DeVloek Replied by *DeVloek* on topic *[\[SUBMISSION\] Blacktail Covert](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/2059-submission-blacktail-covert#11913 "Name: Blacktail Connector Class: 2 Type: Hitscan Palette: Doom Summon: BTConnector Ammo Type: Clip (Reserve), BTLoaded (Magazine) Altfire: Yes Powered Mode: No Brightmaps: No Actor modification: No ACS: No A classic American model, fitted with a suppressor, an 8x scope, and a red dot for stealth assignments. The red dot is affected by auto aim, and glows brighter when targeting enemies. The suppressor makes the gun dead silent, and the gun shoots faster when tapping fire instead of holding. Altfire uses the scope. Credits in file.")* If the behavior is distinct enough from the Reaper and Mag60, I'd say it's fine, but if it's too similar I agree the sprites should be more different. Maybe a simple recolor will do, I mean the sprites are pretty cool. 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The red dot is affected by auto aim, and glows brighter when targeting enemies. The suppressor makes the gun dead silent, and the gun shoots faster when tapping fire instead of holding. Altfire uses the scope. Credits in file.")* Took the opportunity, went ahead and added an altfire. Altfire brings up a scope. Also, left the original sprites in a separate folder with a different name, simply because i don't believe i've ever seen a suppressed version of that pistol with all the frames. If anyone wants to use those, they're still there. Last edit: 2 years 3 months ago by LossForWords. Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8yMDU5LXN1Ym1pc3Npb24tYmxhY2t0YWlsLWNvdmVydA==&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. [Powered by](https://www.realm667.com/forum/credits) [Kunena Forum](https://www.kunena.org)