# ![](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/topic_icons/realm667_repo/user/rep_approved.png) Tactical Chaingun ## - **Craneo** - ![Craneo's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar12375.png?1718652256) Topic Author - Dark Imp - ![Dark Imp](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_41_darkimp.png) Less More- Posts: 8 - - - - 2 years 1 month ago - 2 years 1 month ago [\#12024](#12024) by Craneo *[Tactical Chaingun](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/2084-tactical-chaingun#12024 "INFO: Name: Tactical Chaingun Class: 4 Type: Hitscan Palette: Doom Summon: TacticalChaingun AmmoType: Clip Altfire: Yes Powered Mode: No Brightmaps: No Actor Modifications: No ACS: No DESCRIPTION: A stealthy chaingun tailored specifically for the UAC Spec-Ops needs, it comes with a silencer and a scope, when fired it won't alert enemy units,  unlike the normal chaingun, it's not full-auto, instead firing in bursts, it is also more accurate than the normal chaingun, despite not dealing as much damage, great for infiltration & assasination missions. CREDITS: Submitted: Craneo Code: Craneo, Z86, Perkistan GLDefs: none Sounds: 3DRealms Sprites: Zrrion the Insect, Midway, Id Software, JoeyTD, Tesefy, Sgt. Shivers Sprite Edit: Craneo Idea Base: Tacticool    ")* was created by *Craneo* INFO: Name: Tactical Chaingun Class: 4 Type: Hitscan Palette: Doom Summon: TacticalChaingun AmmoType: Clip Altfire: Yes Powered Mode: No Brightmaps: No Actor Modifications: No ACS: No DESCRIPTION: A stealthy chaingun tailored specifically for the UAC Spec-Ops needs, it comes with a silencer and a scope, when fired it won't alert enemy units, unlike the normal chaingun, it's not full-auto, instead firing in bursts, it is also more accurate than the normal chaingun, despite not dealing as much damage, great for infiltration & assasination missions. CREDITS: Submitted: Craneo Code: Craneo, Z86, Perkistan GLDefs: none Sounds: 3DRealms Sprites: Zrrion the Insect, Midway, Id Software, JoeyTD, Tesefy, Sgt. Shivers Sprite Edit: Craneo Idea Base: Tacticool [ ![[img](https://i.imgur.com/ziP9AcB.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/ziP9AcB.png) #### File Attachment: File Name: [ Tactical Chaingun.zip](https://www.realm667.com/forum/attachment/2298 "Tactical Chaingun.zip") File Size:33.94 KB Last edit: 2 years 1 month ago by Craneo. Reason: restored damage back to 4 Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8yMDg0LXRhY3RpY2FsLWNoYWluZ3Vu&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **inkoalawetrust** - ![inkoalawetrust's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar11669.jpg?1718890853) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_20_barrel.png) Less More- Posts: 254 - - 2 years 1 month ago [\#12027](#12027) by inkoalawetrust Replied by *inkoalawetrust* on topic *[Tactical Chaingun](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/2084-tactical-chaingun#12027 "INFO: Name: Tactical Chaingun Class: 4 Type: Hitscan Palette: Doom Summon: TacticalChaingun AmmoType: Clip Altfire: Yes Powered Mode: No Brightmaps: No Actor Modifications: No ACS: No DESCRIPTION: A stealthy chaingun tailored specifically for the UAC Spec-Ops needs, it comes with a silencer and a scope, when fired it won't alert enemy units,  unlike the normal chaingun, it's not full-auto, instead firing in bursts, it is also more accurate than the normal chaingun, despite not dealing as much damage, great for infiltration & assasination missions. CREDITS: Submitted: Craneo Code: Craneo, Z86, Perkistan GLDefs: none Sounds: 3DRealms Sprites: Zrrion the Insect, Midway, Id Software, JoeyTD, Tesefy, Sgt. Shivers Sprite Edit: Craneo Idea Base: Tacticool    ")* This seems fine, but one nitpick I have is that it seems to do a bit too much damage, it both doesn't alert enemies at all when firing, AND is also more accurate. But in terms of damage, it only does 1 less damage compared to the vanilla chaingun. So either it should do 3 or even 2 damage, so it's more significantly weaker than the vanilla chaingun. To balance it a bit more, since otherwise it's basically just a better chaingun in almost every situation. Alternatively, it should either be a bit more inaccurate, or it shouldn't be totally silent, and instead have +NOALERT, but also call [ A\_AlertMonsters()](https://zdoom.org/wiki/A_AlertMonsters) with a smaller sound alert range of like 256-512 MU. Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8yMDg0LXRhY3RpY2FsLWNoYWluZ3Vu&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **DeVloek** - ![DeVloek's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar11145.png?1542216928) - Arachnotron - ![Arachnotron](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_10_arachno.png) Less More- Posts: 416 - - 2 years 1 month ago [\#12028](#12028) by DeVloek Replied by *DeVloek* on topic *[Tactical Chaingun](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/2084-tactical-chaingun#12028 "INFO: Name: Tactical Chaingun Class: 4 Type: Hitscan Palette: Doom Summon: TacticalChaingun AmmoType: Clip Altfire: Yes Powered Mode: No Brightmaps: No Actor Modifications: No ACS: No DESCRIPTION: A stealthy chaingun tailored specifically for the UAC Spec-Ops needs, it comes with a silencer and a scope, when fired it won't alert enemy units,  unlike the normal chaingun, it's not full-auto, instead firing in bursts, it is also more accurate than the normal chaingun, despite not dealing as much damage, great for infiltration & assasination missions. CREDITS: Submitted: Craneo Code: Craneo, Z86, Perkistan GLDefs: none Sounds: 3DRealms Sprites: Zrrion the Insect, Midway, Id Software, JoeyTD, Tesefy, Sgt. Shivers Sprite Edit: Craneo Idea Base: Tacticool    ")* I would keep the damage as it is, but give the weapon a new ammo type, ie. subsonic ammo. 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CREDITS: Submitted: Craneo Code: Craneo, Z86, Perkistan GLDefs: none Sounds: 3DRealms Sprites: Zrrion the Insect, Midway, Id Software, JoeyTD, Tesefy, Sgt. Shivers Sprite Edit: Craneo Idea Base: Tacticool    ")* not too sure about adding a new ammo type, may nerf the damage instead... 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CREDITS: Submitted: Craneo Code: Craneo, Z86, Perkistan GLDefs: none Sounds: 3DRealms Sprites: Zrrion the Insect, Midway, Id Software, JoeyTD, Tesefy, Sgt. Shivers Sprite Edit: Craneo Idea Base: Tacticool    ")* Okay, I think it's a little more balanced now with the slightly more reduced damage, but I'll wait to see what Gothic thinks. 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CREDITS: Submitted: Craneo Code: Craneo, Z86, Perkistan GLDefs: none Sounds: 3DRealms Sprites: Zrrion the Insect, Midway, Id Software, JoeyTD, Tesefy, Sgt. Shivers Sprite Edit: Craneo Idea Base: Tacticool    ")* I'd say setting the damage to 4 would be ideal, still not as powerful as the chaingun, but think shooting bursts of fire instead of continuous should be enough of a drawback. Also Testing 1 2 3 4 Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8yMDg0LXRhY3RpY2FsLWNoYWluZ3Vu&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **Craneo** - ![Craneo's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar12375.png?1718652256) Topic Author - Dark Imp - ![Dark Imp](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_41_darkimp.png) Less More- Posts: 8 - - - - 2 years 1 month ago [\#12060](#12060) by Craneo Replied by *Craneo* on topic *[Tactical Chaingun](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/2084-tactical-chaingun#12060 "INFO: Name: Tactical Chaingun Class: 4 Type: Hitscan Palette: Doom Summon: TacticalChaingun AmmoType: Clip Altfire: Yes Powered Mode: No Brightmaps: No Actor Modifications: No ACS: No DESCRIPTION: A stealthy chaingun tailored specifically for the UAC Spec-Ops needs, it comes with a silencer and a scope, when fired it won't alert enemy units,  unlike the normal chaingun, it's not full-auto, instead firing in bursts, it is also more accurate than the normal chaingun, despite not dealing as much damage, great for infiltration & assasination missions. CREDITS: Submitted: Craneo Code: Craneo, Z86, Perkistan GLDefs: none Sounds: 3DRealms Sprites: Zrrion the Insect, Midway, Id Software, JoeyTD, Tesefy, Sgt. Shivers Sprite Edit: Craneo Idea Base: Tacticool    ")* So do I restore the old damage instead? What is the general consensus for the Tact. Chaingun? 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CREDITS: Submitted: Craneo Code: Craneo, Z86, Perkistan GLDefs: none Sounds: 3DRealms Sprites: Zrrion the Insect, Midway, Id Software, JoeyTD, Tesefy, Sgt. Shivers Sprite Edit: Craneo Idea Base: Tacticool    ")* 4 damage Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy8yMDg0LXRhY3RpY2FsLWNoYWluZ3Vu&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **Craneo** - ![Craneo's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar12375.png?1718652256) Topic Author - Dark Imp - ![Dark Imp](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_41_darkimp.png) Less More- Posts: 8 - - - - 2 years 1 month ago [\#12067](#12067) by Craneo Replied by *Craneo* on topic *[Tactical Chaingun](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/2084-tactical-chaingun#12067 "INFO: Name: Tactical Chaingun Class: 4 Type: Hitscan Palette: Doom Summon: TacticalChaingun AmmoType: Clip Altfire: Yes Powered Mode: No Brightmaps: No Actor Modifications: No ACS: No DESCRIPTION: A stealthy chaingun tailored specifically for the UAC Spec-Ops needs, it comes with a silencer and a scope, when fired it won't alert enemy units,  unlike the normal chaingun, it's not full-auto, instead firing in bursts, it is also more accurate than the normal chaingun, despite not dealing as much damage, great for infiltration & assasination missions. CREDITS: Submitted: Craneo Code: Craneo, Z86, Perkistan GLDefs: none Sounds: 3DRealms Sprites: Zrrion the Insect, Midway, Id Software, JoeyTD, Tesefy, Sgt. Shivers Sprite Edit: Craneo Idea Base: Tacticool    ")* alright, restored the damage to how it was before. 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