# ![](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/topic_icons/realm667_repo/user/rep_approved.png) \[Update\] MP5 submachinegun pack ## - **MagicWazard** - ![MagicWazard's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar517.png) Topic Author - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_20_barrel.png) Less More- Posts: 808 - - - - 11 years 9 months ago [\#201](#201) by MagicWazard *[\[Update\] MP5 submachinegun pack](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/72-update-mp5-submachinegun-pack#201 "Information: see WADs Credits: see WADs Description: Includes JoeyTD's original MP5 submachinegun along with a suppressed variant that has a slower rate-of-fire, but won't alert enemies beyond 384 units distance and has no muzzle climb. Download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/z44pjm4p3c3n2a3/MP5%20pack.zip?dl=0 I had produced a suppressed version of JoeyTD's MP5 submachinegun a while back, and since it was based off JoeyTD's custom sprite artwork, the idea came up that instead of submitting it on its own, I could include it with JoeyTD's original version as a pack and submit it as an update. I got his permission before the last hack attack, but it didn't get through the approval process before the site got hacked and rebuilt, so I'm resubmitting it again. Since it's technically an "update" I skimped on the details and preview, but I can add them in if you want (though there's multiple WADs in the pack so it might get messy if I put all the details in). I was able to get the suppressed version to produce no light when used in ZDoom, but it still creates a localized light in GZDoom; this appears to be a limitation of the engine (since the light is tied to the player frame and not any weapon property).")* was created by *MagicWazard* Information: see WADs Credits: see WADs Description: Includes JoeyTD's original MP5 submachinegun along with a suppressed variant that has a slower rate-of-fire, but won't alert enemies beyond 384 units distance and has no muzzle climb. Download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/z44pjm4p3c3n2a3/MP5%20pack.zip?dl=0 I had produced a suppressed version of JoeyTD's MP5 submachinegun a while back, and since it was based off JoeyTD's custom sprite artwork, the idea came up that instead of submitting it on its own, I could include it with JoeyTD's original version as a pack and submit it as an update. I got his permission before the last hack attack, but it didn't get through the approval process before the site got hacked and rebuilt, so I'm resubmitting it again. Since it's technically an "update" I skimped on the details and preview, but I can add them in if you want (though there's multiple WADs in the pack so it might get messy if I put all the details in). I was able to get the suppressed version to produce no light when used in ZDoom, but it still creates a localized light in GZDoom; this appears to be a limitation of the engine (since the light is tied to the player frame and not any weapon property). Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy83Mi11cGRhdGUtbXA1LXN1Ym1hY2hpbmVndW4tcGFjaw==&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **Salahmander** - ![Salahmander's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar1650.png?1601326422) - Wicked - ![Wicked](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_81_wicked.png) Less More- Posts: 213 - - - - 11 years 9 months ago [\#361](#361) by Salahmander Replied by *Salahmander* on topic *[\[Update\] MP5 submachinegun pack](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/72-update-mp5-submachinegun-pack#361 "Information: see WADs Credits: see WADs Description: Includes JoeyTD's original MP5 submachinegun along with a suppressed variant that has a slower rate-of-fire, but won't alert enemies beyond 384 units distance and has no muzzle climb. Download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/z44pjm4p3c3n2a3/MP5%20pack.zip?dl=0 I had produced a suppressed version of JoeyTD's MP5 submachinegun a while back, and since it was based off JoeyTD's custom sprite artwork, the idea came up that instead of submitting it on its own, I could include it with JoeyTD's original version as a pack and submit it as an update. I got his permission before the last hack attack, but it didn't get through the approval process before the site got hacked and rebuilt, so I'm resubmitting it again. Since it's technically an "update" I skimped on the details and preview, but I can add them in if you want (though there's multiple WADs in the pack so it might get messy if I put all the details in). I was able to get the suppressed version to produce no light when used in ZDoom, but it still creates a localized light in GZDoom; this appears to be a limitation of the engine (since the light is tied to the player frame and not any weapon property).")* Just tested it, it works perfect aside from the GZDoom issue you mentioned. 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Download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/z44pjm4p3c3n2a3/MP5%20pack.zip?dl=0 I had produced a suppressed version of JoeyTD's MP5 submachinegun a while back, and since it was based off JoeyTD's custom sprite artwork, the idea came up that instead of submitting it on its own, I could include it with JoeyTD's original version as a pack and submit it as an update. I got his permission before the last hack attack, but it didn't get through the approval process before the site got hacked and rebuilt, so I'm resubmitting it again. Since it's technically an "update" I skimped on the details and preview, but I can add them in if you want (though there's multiple WADs in the pack so it might get messy if I put all the details in). I was able to get the suppressed version to produce no light when used in ZDoom, but it still creates a localized light in GZDoom; this appears to be a limitation of the engine (since the light is tied to the player frame and not any weapon property).")* I'm pretty sure this was mentioned pre-hack, but in case it wasn't... The muzzle flash is incorrect. Suppressors would kill the muzzle flash completely. I think the muzzle flash was added to be visually suppressive (I'm so sorry for that pun), so it gets a pass here. Fire rate is a little inaccurate for the base weapons, with the MP5SD having a fire rate more akin to the UMP-45, but for the case of gameplay and the fact it's Doom, it gets an easy pass. I think it's good. Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy83Mi11cGRhdGUtbXA1LXN1Ym1hY2hpbmVndW4tcGFjaw==&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **Blue Shadow** - ![Blue Shadow's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) - Administrator - ![Administrator](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_20_barrel.png) Less More- Posts: 1131 - - - 11 years 9 months ago [\#373](#373) by Blue Shadow Replied by *Blue Shadow* on topic *[\[Update\] MP5 submachinegun pack](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/72-update-mp5-submachinegun-pack#373 "Information: see WADs Credits: see WADs Description: Includes JoeyTD's original MP5 submachinegun along with a suppressed variant that has a slower rate-of-fire, but won't alert enemies beyond 384 units distance and has no muzzle climb. Download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/z44pjm4p3c3n2a3/MP5%20pack.zip?dl=0 I had produced a suppressed version of JoeyTD's MP5 submachinegun a while back, and since it was based off JoeyTD's custom sprite artwork, the idea came up that instead of submitting it on its own, I could include it with JoeyTD's original version as a pack and submit it as an update. I got his permission before the last hack attack, but it didn't get through the approval process before the site got hacked and rebuilt, so I'm resubmitting it again. Since it's technically an "update" I skimped on the details and preview, but I can add them in if you want (though there's multiple WADs in the pack so it might get messy if I put all the details in). I was able to get the suppressed version to produce no light when used in ZDoom, but it still creates a localized light in GZDoom; this appears to be a limitation of the engine (since the light is tied to the player frame and not any weapon property).")* > MagicWazard wrote: I was able to get the suppressed version to produce no light when used in ZDoom, but it still creates a localized light in GZDoom; this appears to be a limitation of the engine (since the light is tied to the player frame and not any weapon property). There is a way around that, which is by using GFF_NOEXTCHANGE and FBF_NOFLASH flags on [ A\_GunFlash](http://zdoom.org/wiki/A_GunFlash) and [ A\_FireBullets](http://zdoom.org/wiki/A_FireBullets), respectively. The "downside", here, is that the player is going to use the non-flash frames for the attack animation, which contradicts the weapon itself, having a muzzleflash when fired. Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy83Mi11cGRhdGUtbXA1LXN1Ym1hY2hpbmVndW4tcGFjaw==&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **MagicWazard** - ![MagicWazard's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar517.png) Topic Author - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_20_barrel.png) Less More- Posts: 808 - - - - 11 years 9 months ago - 11 years 9 months ago [\#383](#383) by MagicWazard Replied by *MagicWazard* on topic *[\[Update\] MP5 submachinegun pack](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/72-update-mp5-submachinegun-pack#383 "Information: see WADs Credits: see WADs Description: Includes JoeyTD's original MP5 submachinegun along with a suppressed variant that has a slower rate-of-fire, but won't alert enemies beyond 384 units distance and has no muzzle climb. Download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/z44pjm4p3c3n2a3/MP5%20pack.zip?dl=0 I had produced a suppressed version of JoeyTD's MP5 submachinegun a while back, and since it was based off JoeyTD's custom sprite artwork, the idea came up that instead of submitting it on its own, I could include it with JoeyTD's original version as a pack and submit it as an update. I got his permission before the last hack attack, but it didn't get through the approval process before the site got hacked and rebuilt, so I'm resubmitting it again. Since it's technically an "update" I skimped on the details and preview, but I can add them in if you want (though there's multiple WADs in the pack so it might get messy if I put all the details in). I was able to get the suppressed version to produce no light when used in ZDoom, but it still creates a localized light in GZDoom; this appears to be a limitation of the engine (since the light is tied to the player frame and not any weapon property).")* I'll have to try out those flags. If they do in fact prevent the player sprite from changing to the non-flash frames, that might justify removing the flash altogether (or at the very least reducing it further). I think I said this before, but I mostly included the muzzle flash because I think the average player would expect it (besides, most video games/movies have a grossly inaccurate depiction of how "silencers" work anyways, which I think a lot of people are used to). I'd be OK with yanking it altogether if the suggested flags do their job (and Blue Shadow's suggestions are usually on the money, so they probably will). I'll try that out and update in the near future if I like the results. EDIT: As usual, Blue Shadow's suggestion was correct! So I went ahead and implemented both of the flags he suggested. While I was in there, I also decided to comment out the call to A_GunFlash, so by default, no muzzle flash is displayed at all. I didn't remove it altogether, though, in case somebody wants to use it. I've included a comment for modders indicating how to re-enable it if they like. Last edit: 11 years 9 months ago by MagicWazard. 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Download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/z44pjm4p3c3n2a3/MP5%20pack.zip?dl=0 I had produced a suppressed version of JoeyTD's MP5 submachinegun a while back, and since it was based off JoeyTD's custom sprite artwork, the idea came up that instead of submitting it on its own, I could include it with JoeyTD's original version as a pack and submit it as an update. I got his permission before the last hack attack, but it didn't get through the approval process before the site got hacked and rebuilt, so I'm resubmitting it again. Since it's technically an "update" I skimped on the details and preview, but I can add them in if you want (though there's multiple WADs in the pack so it might get messy if I put all the details in). I was able to get the suppressed version to produce no light when used in ZDoom, but it still creates a localized light in GZDoom; this appears to be a limitation of the engine (since the light is tied to the player frame and not any weapon property).")* > MagicWazard wrote: As usual, Blue Shadow's suggestion was correct! 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Download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/z44pjm4p3c3n2a3/MP5%20pack.zip?dl=0 I had produced a suppressed version of JoeyTD's MP5 submachinegun a while back, and since it was based off JoeyTD's custom sprite artwork, the idea came up that instead of submitting it on its own, I could include it with JoeyTD's original version as a pack and submit it as an update. I got his permission before the last hack attack, but it didn't get through the approval process before the site got hacked and rebuilt, so I'm resubmitting it again. Since it's technically an "update" I skimped on the details and preview, but I can add them in if you want (though there's multiple WADs in the pack so it might get messy if I put all the details in). I was able to get the suppressed version to produce no light when used in ZDoom, but it still creates a localized light in GZDoom; this appears to be a limitation of the engine (since the light is tied to the player frame and not any weapon property).")* [ Added/Updated](http://www.realm667.com/index.php/en/armory-mainmenu-157-97317/doom-style-mainmenu-158-94349/1130-mp5). Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy83Mi11cGRhdGUtbXA1LXN1Ym1hY2hpbmVndW4tcGFjaw==&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. [Powered by](https://www.realm667.com/forum/credits) [Kunena Forum](https://www.kunena.org)