# ![](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/topic_icons/realm667_repo/user/rep_approved.png) \[SUBMISSION\] Bullet Ant Venom ## - **Quantum\_Dranger** - ![Quantum_Dranger's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) Topic Author - Chaingunner - ![Chaingunner](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_6_chaingunner.png) Less More- Posts: 54 - - 9 years 1 month ago - 8 years 9 months ago [\#6178](#6178) by Quantum\_Dranger *[\[SUBMISSION\] Bullet Ant Venom](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/982-submission-bullet-ant-venom#6178 "INFO Name: Bullet Ant Venom Type: Offensive Type: Hitscan Palette: WOLF3D/Doom Alpha Summon: ItemSyringe Use Type: Manual Duration: Infinite Added States: No ACS: No CREDITS Submitted: Quantum_Dranger Decorate: Quantum_Dranger GLDefs: None Sounds: IWAD Sprites: WOLF 3D, Doom Alpha Sprite Edit: Quantum_Dranger Idea Base: Quantum_Dranger ACS: None DESCRIPTION The end result of a project to create a cheaper form of execution for the money-strapped Phobos base, this syringe contains enough bullet ant poison to kill a human and leave an elephant reeling. The power of the most painful insect on earth can be seen immediately as anything the needle strikes is turned into a blinded screaming spasm pile. LINK http://www.m*diafire.com/file/t6hglrenmsqoo0m/Syringe.zip IMAGE: http://imgur.com/Mj24H53")* was created by *Quantum\_Dranger* INFO Name: Bullet Ant Venom Type: Offensive Type: Hitscan Palette: WOLF3D/Doom Alpha Summon: ItemSyringe Use Type: Manual Duration: Infinite Added States: No ACS: No CREDITS Submitted: Quantum_Dranger Decorate: Quantum_Dranger GLDefs: None Sounds: IWAD Sprites: WOLF 3D, Doom Alpha Sprite Edit: Quantum_Dranger Idea Base: Quantum_Dranger ACS: None DESCRIPTION The end result of a project to create a cheaper form of execution for the money-strapped Phobos base, this syringe contains enough bullet ant poison to kill a human and leave an elephant reeling. The power of the most painful insect on earth can be seen immediately as anything the needle strikes is turned into a blinded screaming spasm pile. LINK http://www.m*diafire.com/file/t6hglrenmsqoo0m/Syringe.zip IMAGE: http://imgur.com/Mj24H53 Last edit: 8 years 9 months ago by Blue Shadow. Reason: Changed title. 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The power of the most painful insect on earth can be seen immediately as anything the needle strikes is turned into a blinded screaming spasm pile. LINK http://www.m*diafire.com/file/t6hglrenmsqoo0m/Syringe.zip IMAGE: http://imgur.com/Mj24H53")* Cleverly done. It only does about 1.5 points of damage per second, though, so it takes a while even to kill a Zombieman with one. The periodic forced pain seems like a more useful effect. That said, it doesn't look like the effect wears off, so I guess you could prick a Cyberdemon, run to a hiding spot, take a nap, and let him die of the poison in the meantime... Oh, and would you be able to update the OP to contain a link to the preview sprite? 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The power of the most painful insect on earth can be seen immediately as anything the needle strikes is turned into a blinded screaming spasm pile. LINK http://www.m*diafire.com/file/t6hglrenmsqoo0m/Syringe.zip IMAGE: http://imgur.com/Mj24H53")* Thanks for alerting me, I added an image to the main post. As for the second part of your comment, I made the periodic pain explosion-type so that enemies immune to blast damage aren't affected. However, if the boss is weak to explosions (a la mother demon) it still inflicts the damage. Would there be a way of disabling the pain for enemies that have the boss flag but are missing the no radius damage flag? 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The power of the most painful insect on earth can be seen immediately as anything the needle strikes is turned into a blinded screaming spasm pile. LINK http://www.m*diafire.com/file/t6hglrenmsqoo0m/Syringe.zip IMAGE: http://imgur.com/Mj24H53")* Hmm, I don't think there's any functions or flags/properties that can calculate damage based solely on whether or not the target is a Boss. That said, I don't think it's necessarily bad or good if the Boss monsters take damage--it was just a scenario that came to mind. You could use custom damagetypes, but of course that would require each enemy type to be modded with immunity. Considering how arbitrarily the Boss and NORADIUSDMG attributes are used in community content, I don't know if it would be worth the work. Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy85ODItc3VibWlzc2lvbi1idWxsZXQtYW50LXZlbm9t&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **Blue Shadow** - ![Blue Shadow's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) - Administrator - ![Administrator](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_20_barrel.png) Less More- Posts: 1131 - - - 8 years 11 months ago [\#6360](#6360) by Blue Shadow Replied by *Blue Shadow* on topic *[\[SUBMISSION\] Syringe](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/982-submission-bullet-ant-venom#6360 "INFO Name: Bullet Ant Venom Type: Offensive Type: Hitscan Palette: WOLF3D/Doom Alpha Summon: ItemSyringe Use Type: Manual Duration: Infinite Added States: No ACS: No CREDITS Submitted: Quantum_Dranger Decorate: Quantum_Dranger GLDefs: None Sounds: IWAD Sprites: WOLF 3D, Doom Alpha Sprite Edit: Quantum_Dranger Idea Base: Quantum_Dranger ACS: None DESCRIPTION The end result of a project to create a cheaper form of execution for the money-strapped Phobos base, this syringe contains enough bullet ant poison to kill a human and leave an elephant reeling. The power of the most painful insect on earth can be seen immediately as anything the needle strikes is turned into a blinded screaming spasm pile. LINK http://www.m*diafire.com/file/t6hglrenmsqoo0m/Syringe.zip IMAGE: http://imgur.com/Mj24H53")* Not a bad concept, but here are a few things: - With how little damage it does, I don't think it should force pain each time damage is inflicted. - The syringe should update its position more often when it's stuck to the monster, so the desync in position between it and the monster is less noticeable when the monster moves. - I think it should be limited do a certain amount of damage, instead until the monster dies. - Bug: sometimes some monsters (it happened with zombies) don't receive damage from the syringe. - In line 39 of DECORATE, why XF\_HURTSOURCE is preceded by a minus sign? - I see a number of duplicate sprites which increases the size of the file unnecessarily. - Most of the sprites need to be converted to PNG. That's it for now I think. 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The power of the most painful insect on earth can be seen immediately as anything the needle strikes is turned into a blinded screaming spasm pile. LINK http://www.m*diafire.com/file/t6hglrenmsqoo0m/Syringe.zip IMAGE: http://imgur.com/Mj24H53")* Thanks for the feedback. I added a counter so it doesn't last forever, made the position get updated more often, moved the syringe closer so that zombies get damaged more often and converted all sprites to png as well as removing all the duplicates. I didn't remove the minus flag as that protects the player from receiving explosion damage and the forced pain is kind of the entire point of the item. Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy85ODItc3VibWlzc2lvbi1idWxsZXQtYW50LXZlbm9t&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. - **Blue Shadow** - ![Blue Shadow's Avatar](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) - Administrator - ![Administrator](https://www.realm667.com/media/kunena/ranks/rank_20_barrel.png) Less More- Posts: 1131 - - - 8 years 11 months ago - 8 years 11 months ago [\#6380](#6380) by Blue Shadow Replied by *Blue Shadow* on topic *[\[SUBMISSION\] Syringe](https://www.realm667.com/forum/closed-submissions/982-submission-bullet-ant-venom#6380 "INFO Name: Bullet Ant Venom Type: Offensive Type: Hitscan Palette: WOLF3D/Doom Alpha Summon: ItemSyringe Use Type: Manual Duration: Infinite Added States: No ACS: No CREDITS Submitted: Quantum_Dranger Decorate: Quantum_Dranger GLDefs: None Sounds: IWAD Sprites: WOLF 3D, Doom Alpha Sprite Edit: Quantum_Dranger Idea Base: Quantum_Dranger ACS: None DESCRIPTION The end result of a project to create a cheaper form of execution for the money-strapped Phobos base, this syringe contains enough bullet ant poison to kill a human and leave an elephant reeling. The power of the most painful insect on earth can be seen immediately as anything the needle strikes is turned into a blinded screaming spasm pile. LINK http://www.m*diafire.com/file/t6hglrenmsqoo0m/Syringe.zip IMAGE: http://imgur.com/Mj24H53")* > Quantum\_Dranger wrote: I didn't remove the minus flag as that protects the player from receiving explosion damage If a function passes a flag by default, and you want that flag cleared, put 0. --- Edit: > Quantum\_Dranger wrote: ... and the forced pain is kind of the entire point of the item. It just doesn't feel right to me for a cyberdemon or even an archvile to flinch so often by it, while if you shoot them with weapons they seldom or rarely do. Here is what I propose: painchance. Have the syringe projectile inflict a unique damagetype, and let the modders decide how to set up the painchance for their monsters. About the whole damage implementation: I suggest you ditch the use of splash damage, as it's not that reliable as you saw from my feedback. "Okay, how to approach it, then?", you might ask. Well, there is [ a nifty set of actor flags](https://zdoom.org/wiki/Actor_flags#HITTARGET) which are the HITTARGET, HITMASTER and HITTRACER. If you set one of these on a projectile, and the projectile impacts an actor, that hit actor becomes the target, master or tracer of the projectile (depending on the HIT flag you set). This way you can forget about the seeker missile setup to get a tracer, and reliably do the damage by using [ A\_DamageTarget](https://zdoom.org/wiki/A_DamageTarget), [ A\_DamageMaster](https://zdoom.org/wiki/A_DamageMaster) or [ A\_DamageTracer](https://zdoom.org/wiki/A_DamageTracer) (again, depending on the HIT flag you chose), which don't rely on range or distance. Note that I don't recommend you use HITTARGET here, because projectiles already use that to keep track of their shooter. Last edit: 8 years 11 months ago by Blue Shadow. 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The power of the most painful insect on earth can be seen immediately as anything the needle strikes is turned into a blinded screaming spasm pile. LINK http://www.m*diafire.com/file/t6hglrenmsqoo0m/Syringe.zip IMAGE: http://imgur.com/Mj24H53")* Thanks for the idea. I'll implement it once I get my main computer back online, right now I'm on a pretty old laptop without editing tools. Last edit: 8 years 10 months ago by Quantum\_Dranger. 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The power of the most painful insect on earth can be seen immediately as anything the needle strikes is turned into a blinded screaming spasm pile. LINK http://www.m*diafire.com/file/t6hglrenmsqoo0m/Syringe.zip IMAGE: http://imgur.com/Mj24H53")* Fixed. 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The power of the most painful insect on earth can be seen immediately as anything the needle strikes is turned into a blinded screaming spasm pile. LINK http://www.m*diafire.com/file/t6hglrenmsqoo0m/Syringe.zip IMAGE: http://imgur.com/Mj24H53")* This isn't a massive deal, but I think this could do with being renamed. "Syringe" is just not descriptive, it's lacking. Please [Log in](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/login?return=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVhbG02NjcuY29tL2ZvcnVtL2Nsb3NlZC1zdWJtaXNzaW9ucy85ODItc3VibWlzc2lvbi1idWxsZXQtYW50LXZlbm9t&Itemid=2662) or [Create an account](https://www.realm667.com/component/users/registration?Itemid=2662) to join the conversation. [Powered by](https://www.realm667.com/forum/credits) [Kunena Forum](https://www.kunena.org)